American Mah Jongg (2024 NMJL card). Continuing my analysis of the 2024 card. Last time, I focused on the front of the card and did my usual count of repeats, variations, or brand new hands. Before I get into specific hands, I want to discuss the back of the card.
If you haven't read the back of the card yet, do it. It's been changed. That doesn't mean there are new rules; what I mean is, it's good to see what has changed on the back, and you never know, you might learn something. Most of the information is the same; it's just reorganized and reworded. Some things have been removed and one thing added, which we'll get to.
There now, aren't you glad we took a look at the back? Next time I'll delve deeply into specific hands.
QUESTIONS about the 2023 NMJL card? See FAQ 16.
COMMENTS
What's in a word? ("Call")
DL: In Mah Jongg Made Easy, they refer to the situation where the 'call' for a discard allows a player to put up tiles from their hand before taking physical possession of the called discard; effectively slamming (which they claim to not promote) and shutting out another player who wants the discard and has 'called' as well.
DL: Why does the league refuse to differentiate between the 'call' and the 'take' (physical possession) of the tile?
DL: Why is a player allowed to start their turn inappropriately, with too few tiles?
DL: Why does the call become the start of a player's turn?
DL: Why isn't it a rule that the 'call' is the mere halt to the natural picking order, and then the proper player has to claim the discard off the table FIRST and place it on the flat?
DL: the refusal to update/codify this rule is an antiquated nod to older players who like to play a very fast game
DL: Why is there a disconnect between a wall tile and a called discard tile as to proper procedure?
Column #800 correction
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On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 09:47:02 AM EDT, DebbiAnn L wrote:
The word "call"
Hi Tom!
Glad you addressed the word 'call'. Now, if only the league would address the issue fully.
In Mah Jongg Made Easy, they refer to the situation where the 'call' for a discard allows a player to put up tiles from their hand before taking physical possession of the called discard; effectively slamming (which they claim to not promote) and shutting out another player who wants the discard and has 'called' as well. Why does the league refuse to differentiate between the 'call' and the 'take' (physical possession) of the tile? Why is a player allowed to start their turn inappropriately, with too few tiles? Why does the call become the start of a player's turn? Why isn't it a rule that the 'call' is the mere halt to the natural picking order, and then the proper player has to claim the discard off the table FIRST and place it on the flat? This would give a fair amount of time for any other player to over-call (a couple of seconds) rather than promote slamming...putting up tiles from the hand first, which takes milliseconds...and effectively shutting out the proper procedure and harmonious flow to the process of the game.
I've written to the league since 2017 on this very subject (with SASE); received no response from the league, and feel that in addition to the slamming and the incorrect procedure, and the refusal to update/codify this rule is an antiquated nod to older players who like to play a very fast game and not follow proper procedure. Some of these fast players also have played with futures (looking ahead), so if they want to continue to play that way they can elect to ignore the rule in their home game, but everyone should learn that whether picking from the wall, or taking a discard off the table, a player's turn begins with the taking in of the 14th tile to their hand and racking it, appropriately, in or on the slope. Why is there a disconnect between a wall tile and a called discard tile as to proper procedure?
Am I missing something here...except the league refuses to do the right thing? I know you aren't 'the league', but I feel the need to vent since the league continues to ignore the subject...and I'd like your opinion on what I've written.
Debbi
Debbi, I've been harping on the multiple meanings of "call" since 2008. As to your other comments:
TS: I suppose the rule assumes all players are playing at a reasonable speed and not jumping to shut out any other players. At the bottom of page 14 (MJME2023), it says players must verbalize the call. I suppose the rule assumes players verbalize before acting. Which edition of MJME are you referring to, and which page?
TS: In what locations in MJME2023 do you recommend this distinction be drawn?
TS: You mean allowing a player to expose from the hand before taking the discard? I think it's drawing too fine a distinction to call that "starting the turn inappropriately."
TS: Assuming nobody else is also calling the discard, I have no problem saying that the player's turn has begun with the call. Consider that the order of play has already been interrupted (if the discarder is not seated at the caller's left), and for a valid reason.
TS: I can't explain why the League has not so codified the rule.
TS: Sounds right.
TS: I suppose "because the two actions are different" and calling a discard can happen out of turn. The dichotomy between calling and picking exists in all variants of mah-jongg, going back well over 100 years.
Play safe out there. And
may the tiles be with you.
Tom Sloper
Rochester, New York, USA
April 1, 2024
Author of "The Red Dragon & The West Wind"
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On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 11:30:35 AM EDT, Shawn M wrote:
back of card - rule to verbalize call
HI Tom - the rule about verbalizing a call hasnt been deleted, just moved to #2 under "Claiming a discard"
囧 Right you are, Shawn! Thanks!
Play safe out there. And
may the tiles be with you.
Tom Sloper
Rochester, New York, USA
April 1, 2024
Author of "The Red Dragon & The West Wind"
Donations appreciated
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